Did another parent ever tell you something about your child that you didn’t know?

When I had the Hospice / Nursing Home Ministries; my son also participated since we also had children and young teens in Hospice.

PRINCIPAL: You’ve raised your son very well.

SON: Here, let me open it for you!

What did someone say to you that instantly made you realize their life was in danger?

ME: You?

SON: Yes, the one that the three boys destroyed his wheelchair, beat him up, calling him names…

XXXX: (responds very weakly with squeals)

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**** Terry’s husband, he was distraught. It was very difficult for him but he wanted his wife removed from life support, which I agreed, she was beyond brain dead. The original Physician and Neurologist had already stated, there were no use for prolonging the life via machines, she was not going to recover. It was TERRY’S PARENTS that overrode her husband’s decision, portrayed him as a “bad, terrible, awful man”. It was heart-breaking enough to find your loved one that sustained a medical issue and no one is able to “save”.

(returned back after the rounds were complete - entered into xxxx’s room)

ME: Please call me if he’s not expecting to live much longer, we will be here!

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The child’s Mother then came into scene, she had to pick her son up from school for Doctor’s appointments.

One day, my son came to me and said “(xxx) is in Hospice! Nurse said he’s not expected to live for another month!”

DEPUTY: We have that conversation logged and documented

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CHARGE NURSE: Haven’t! They just dumped him at the hospital where the hospital could no longer take care of him and was turned over to us. The mother signed it all over to the appointed lawyer, she has not seen her son in 3 or 4 years (scrambling to look at the records) , correction, 5 years!

PRINCIPAL: Your son is a great person! Since he did report it to the Principal, and I did confirm that via the recorded (phone) conversation.

ME: Thank you!

Hi everybody! I have been looking at posts on narcs and narc abuse on here and if has really helped me out a lot. I am currently struggling with my situation and need some advice/support. I met a narc last year, everything seemed to good to be true. Love bombing, always texting calling and taking me on dates. Everything changed when someone warned me about him out in public in front of him and who he is. This caused a conflict with us and the love bombing seized. he would tell me that everything is okay and i can come and talk. He would set a time limit on me and kick me out after that. he would then text me like everything was fine and we hung out again and after that he completely ghosted me for one week. He came back and texted me a week later laughing about the ghosting and acting like nothing had happened. he continued to text me ( not like in the beginning) make plans with me, then on the day of the plans he would just ghost me. One day he would act interested the next silence. i contacted him a month later and he acted like nothing happened. He was on a vacation and sent me a picture of another woman ( someone he allegedly met on the trip) to strike a reaction but i never gave him one. After the trip he came to my place and was extremely rude, accusing me of going on dates with a bunch of men. The next day he accused me of being an alcoholic and that he wanted nothing to do with me but said well maybe we can be "friends" then ghosted me i assumed at this point it was over and i would never hear from him again. He contacted me on the holiday a month later acting like everything was great. We ended up hanging out a month or so later and when we hung out it went well, i thought things were going in the right direction. after we hung out.. silence. I would try to text him and if he replied it would be very short then he just stopped replying. He ghosted me for almost three months. I thought he was done this time and of course he popped up again like nothing happened. At this point i was getting sick of if so i questioned him as to why he dissapeared and always does this. Of course he had some sob story about a injury and family member dying of cancer. I felt pity for him and he gave me an apology.. so i took him back stupidly. things seemed to be going smooth for a couple months, of course until his family member died and his injury got better he never contacted me and was distant. Menawhile, i was there for him during the difficult time for him. He lied to me about the funeral and never wanted to chat. I was chasing him and he would always claim nothing was wrong but when i said i thought he used me when he was down he could not handle it and would always tell me he didnt care and to go away. I would get so upset i would try texting him to work it out he would barelt respond and if he did he would not be nice about it. we did hang out a couple times after that, he would ignore me after. One day i was like hey i think you are seeing someone else, and i was like well ixam seeing someone so no problem if you are he said " buy bye good luck with your new guy stop contacting me" i was devastated and tried to get into contact with him for weeks then i just gave up and accepted it was over. He ended up contacting me a month later acting like everything was fine. He wanted to go out and have drinks i told him i would. He and i both seemed to have a great time. He ends up ignoring me again. I kept texting him trying to figure out what was wrong. He kept saying everything was fine and i said ok can we hang out again? He said maybe i was like why? He just kept saying maybe … our last conversation we had… i said what is wrong ? He said nothing is wrong everything is fine. I asked him why he keeps saying maybe. He said " maybe but i dont want to see you right now" i said why? He saix " im just not feeling it, if i wanted to date i would" i said why did you contact me less then a week ago wanting to go out? He said i didnt.. even though he did. So i said should i just move on or what? He said whatever you want to do. So i said that he was really confusing me and asked him if he had anything more to say before i move on? My messages were turning green so i panicked he blocked me and reacted irrationally. I said " omg did you block me? My messages are not going through. Even texted him on my work phone asking what was up. And called him twice ( please dont judge me i know it is pathetic i never was this type of girl before him) so he replied and said " Ok I'll block you now" then immedietly blocked me. He has never blocked me before since I have met him he will just ghost. Is this ths final discard aka " grand finale? Did i just push him too far? this has upset me so much its hard to even function.

Principal: Ma’am? This is the mother of the boy that defended your son!

He left them there in the woods! Never mind to the fact that a rain storm came down (5 inches of hard rain). They were bound, bloodied and super-soaked in addition to numerous mosquito bites!

ME: Are you sure it is him?

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While my son walked to school, this child took a regular bus that had a wheel chair lift.

My son overheard some kids (punks actually) about how they “tortured” the crippled boy and were laughing about it. While my son told the Principal, the Principal was fully aware of it, but just merely “scolded” the boys. (In other words, it wasn’t even a “slap” on the hand!)

For about 10 minutes, my son’s pushing the buttons and the train will whistle, horn will blow, the chug-a-lugs would be heard.

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31 years ago, when my son was in school; there was this child who was paraplegic and had to use a motorized wheelchair. He was also mobility constrained (which means he cannot use his arms normally, and is limited in movements).

XXXX: squealing with delight

ME: And what did you do?

Hi, I’m Jo. My best friend died 2 years ago today. My husband died 6 months later. So, I’m a depressed mess (we were married 28 years) and can’t shake it. Even my Brother is worried. Some days I don’t do anything, and avoid men cause I don’t want to date. Any suggestions? Thanks for reading.

SON: (walking up and talking to him)

SON: (removed the train out of the box, puts the batteries in) It’s awesome! Watch this…

XXXXX: (recognizes my son’s voice) squeals and gurgles

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ME: (Glancing down to read it) Once becomes deceased, cremation, ashes to be disposed of in a dumpster. No memorial. No Service. No plaques.

SON: Yes!

OFFICER: likewise here too, your son defended a helpless child. And he said, he would do it again!

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My son knew who did it (because they were all bragging).

PS: The IRS got after them because there were money that wasn’t accounted for and the funds they had received, a lot of it had “disappeared”!

MOTHER: It’s also of calm assurance that your son will not tolerate anyone bullying my son!

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The mother introduced her son to the class and explaining to them what his disabilities were. And she also added that the Public School where he was attending to was causing problems.

MOTHER: Am I ever so grateful for you and especially your son! It’s also wonderful to know your son is in most of his classes here at this school.

Of note, there’s no tombstone either, just a grave marker! Until almost 9 years later, my son raised enough money to get a simple “headstone”. Which has the child’s name, Date of Birth and Date of Death insomuch the Funeral Home themselves provided at no cost - a Steam engine train etched.

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DEPUTY: And that being stated is a serious offense, a serious criminal offense!

Once I arrived there, the Principal stood there smiling, along with 2 Officers, one a deputy and the other a Police. My son had just finished giving witness reports and testimony to the Officers, they were going to turn it over to the State Attorney for prosecution.

I am the one that beat those three horrible boys to the pulp! I am the one who took their shoe strings and tied them up. I am the one who left them out in the rain storm where they got soaked. All because the Principal there did not care and refused to punish those boys! If anyone here messes with him, they would have to get through me!

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OFFICER: I cannot believe that Principal had that “I don’t give a damn” attitude. Just acknowledge that to quote and unquote “a couple of students had some quirks about a child in a wheel chair which wasn’t a serious offense”.

ME: ________????__________!!!________

ME: yeah

That child was buried in a casket with the train right next to him where my son put it! We were the ONLY ONES at the “on site” burial! No services, No nothing! But they did permit my son to give the final “blessings” before he was buried.

I then went to the Nurse’s Station and they told me that the disease had spread and he’s not expected to live for another month or less. He can no longer talk, and is no longer able to eat or drink, so the Doctors expects him to pass soon. Then I asked, “When does his parents come out?”

CHARGE NURSE: Truly, you are the most caring people!

It was because of TERRY’S PARENTS → the long term ministry had to be “shut down” and discontinued! Were the local Ministers and Clergies upset about it? Absolutely! Not just the ministers, but also the residents, and personnel! It was beyond “childish” of Terry’s parents!

SON: They had to take a report after I told the Principal what that other school I went to before you pulled me out and put me here about how the Teachers and Principal there did nothing about it! Because they did nothing, I did something about it!

My son carried his present, marched to the long hallway, and to xxx’s room. The Nurses and Staff Personnel saw this and all came with us and we just stood back and observed.

ME: Well, that’s good to hear but why are the cops here?

And those who’ve asked, did Terry’s parents ever truly realize their daughter was gone? YES! AND THEY KNEW IT! They were using their daughter to milk every single dollar that they gained from it!

ME: _________!

The long battle was actually a waste of everyone’s time! As soon as the life support was finally awarded, Terry finally passed! Her OWN husband could not even attend his wife’s funeral! The people were truly being unrealistic, and unfair towards her husband! He was NOT a “murderer” or “every single negative thing” that Terry’s parents tried to drum up!

My son decided to “teach them a lesson” since the Principal never suspended or even punished them! In fact, that Principal basically didn’t give a flip about disabled students!

SON: You know (xxxxx)?

We departed and since I had other engagements, on December 23rd, My son came with a present. He wrapped it up himself.

I turned to glance over her, and she just nodded her head and said: “Utterly cold! No involvement with the child whatsoever! Dispose of at once! Doesn’t care… Doesn’t…” (immediately quiets when my son comes back)

CHARGE NURSE: Above all, his mother remarried again, and her new husband wants no doings with xxxx. In fact, as you can see, the instructions… (handing paperwork over)

I was virtually clueless of what all was going on.

We decide to let them be, the Personnel wanted me to meet a young adult (Terry Schiavo) - to which later caused wild “unrealistic” media and court lingerings. Due to her parents, I was imposed the Gag-Order and BARRED from seeing their daughter, to disclose anything to anyone about their daughter’s condition! *** see notes below for more information. (See Wiki below)

ME: ______????__________

SON: (standing there proudly)

SON: Merry Christmas! Santa accidentally left your present at my house!

ME: Oh?

ME: Okay, little one, tell me what is going on?

At that time the child’s mother was having him pulled from school, at the same time I had enrolled my son to a private school. The word got around that a young 3rd grader boy beat the two 4th grader and a 5th grader to a pulp because of what they did to the “crippled” boy!

XXXX: (with all of his power) squealed with delight!

SON: (picks up a Train book and reads to him)

Since the school has an “In Service Day” program, my son learned these three boys would be there, so he went hiding in the woods, calling for one at time and he beat them up to a pulp and better yet, took shoe strings off their shoes and tied their legs together with their hands tied behind their backs!

DEPUTY: Ma’am, we’ve taken your son’s report including what he had did and done, rest assured he will not be charged.

ME: Let’s go and see him after these rounds here.

My son and his (late) friend were very close.

I already had my son enrolled to a Private Christian (Strict) School.

SON: Yup! And I will do it again if they mess with (xxxxx) again!

SON: Well, I waited in the woods, called for each one, and beat them up to a pulp, took their shoe laces and tied them up and left them there in the rain storm! It was the only way that I could defend (xxxx) when he was defenseless! I told the school that, if anyone tries anything funny, they will have to get by through me first!

Right then and there; My son then stood up, right there, in front of the School’s Director (Senior Pastor), the Principal, School Nurse, and the Administrator Director in the classroom:

SON: Well, I’m the guy who went over to beat those three boys up and tied them!

SON: Remember on (day) , the In-Service Day?

XXX: is just squealing with delight!

SON: Mom? We need to go to K-Bee’s or ToysRUs. I’m buying him a train, so when he goes, he can be buried with it!

ME: Yes, the boy in the wheelchair, the one who has paralysis?

The Nurse went to check and then walked out and nodding her head - he expired.

ME: _______!!!!! (somewhat upset and a bit angry, especially when the child needs his mother the most!)

My son knew his time wasn’t much longer, and insomuch he could tell that xxx was becoming tired. His breathing was becoming labored. My son tucked his train beside him and said “I will be here” and read him his train books, all over again.

My son was a bit sadden. The Nurse then brought the train and said “Keep this, a reminder of your friend.” My son then said “No! He’s to be buried with it!” The other Nurse said “He’s to be cremated” until another Staff said “Change of plans on that, he’s to be buried. I’m calling xxxx Funeral Home to come pick up the body. There won’t be any services though.”

ME: Why thank you, it’s tough, but I am very fair!

SON: (rips it open) AWESOME! You got a train! Let me get it out for you!

ME: That’s enough! I have heard about it!

(long pause)

Well, I didn’t know my son did that, I just heard the rumor fly around that a boy had beaten up the boys that were a problem to the disabled student that was wheel chair dependent. Then I got a phone call from the Principal requesting me to get to the School as soon as possible,

The primary reason why Terry’s parents ordered a gag-order upon those who already KNEW Terry’s situation - that included all personnel in that Hospice location, Volunteers, Medical Personnel (who treated her beforehand). We could not state a word to ANYONE about her state! We knew the truth but Terry’s parents were in it for the Money and Attention!

ME: Okay, we shall do that.

After a few weeks at his new school. My son was shocked to see the boy attending to that school, insomuch, he was in his class.

Then my son approached us and said “I think xxxx went home.”

SON: Hey (xxxx)!

Then one day, the bus driver had to pull over to the parking lot! The kids had toppled over his wheelchair and basically kicked him and punched him. My son was so upset by this that he went into the bus and helped this kid back on his wheelchair (but his wheel chair was broken so they had to carry the child and the wheelchair out so his mother can bring him another wheelchair (manual which meant someone has to push him around).

(she walks over)

XXXX: squealing